Things start off nice and calm...for a minute!
Joy welcomes viewers to the Reunion Show and jokingly says she didn’t think she could get all the ladies in one room without a subpoena! No time for laughs, we get into some serious issues.
First they discuss Junior’s betrayal, with Renee and Jennifer, after we see several clips from this season. Joy asks if they could talk to Junior what would they say to him. Renee says she has nothing to say to him. Jennifer says she would ask him why he did this to her sister and she would tell him that she is very angry.
Renee reveals that she miscarried in January, that’s why she was in the hospital. That was a new revelation we hadn’t heard before. Joy says Junior needed to save his ass and so he copped a plea. Renee says he proposed to her and even asked her father for her hand and so she got pregnant thinking they had a future together. But, Renee says, she wasn’t in the right frame of mind to have a baby. Joy asks if they ever considered to stop the filming because things got so personal. Jennifer says, she did ask Renee if she wanted to stop because it was becoming emotionally overwhelming, but Renee wanted to keep going. Renee says she committed to putting her life on television and this is her life.
At first, Renee says she felt that Junior was cheating and that was why he was acting strangely. But it turns out he was wearing a wire in his watch. So Joy asks, maybe that’s why he didn’t have such a great reaction to the new watch Renee bought him for his birthday. He was already wearing a watch that was wired by the Feds so he couldn’t stop wearing that one. Joy asks Big Ang if she believed the rumors about Junior, and Big Ang answers yes, the rumors are usually true. Drita found it hard to believe Junior was cooperating because he was on the show. Jenn says she was surprised he asked to be on the show more because it would discredit him with the street guys. Joy asks if they know where he is now. Renee says she heard he was rejected from the witness protection program because he lied. Joy asks Renee if she feels guilty about what Junior did to her family. Renee says, yes she does, and she becomes emotional over it. Jenn says she doesn’t feel guilty and doesn’t think that Renee should either. Jenn leaves the set.
The next issue is the colorful language all the women use in the show. They play several clips. A series of clips where everyone is saying they are “DONE” with all the drama. Joy says, let’s get real, no one is done with the drama. They try to explain that everyone on Staten Island speaks the “same language” expressions like “going to war” with someone means you have a problem with them and “come out your face.” Joy says she would be scared if anyone said those things to her and would move out of the neighborhood. Karen’s famous line, “I’m comin’ for you, b*tch!” makes it into the discussion too.
Joy introduces the two new mob wives of season two. Her favorite is Big Ang, who is always around to keep the peace. They show a bunch of clips of Big Ang. Joy says asks Big Ang if she has problems with anyone? Big Ang says she gets along with everyone, she avoids drama because it would stress her out, so she just leaves. Big Ang says she has had three breast augmentations over the years and now her size is “36 J.” She says she got her giant lips when she was 40.
Now we switch over to Ramona who has made a nickname for herself. Joy brings up Ramona’s grandfather, Lefty “Guns” Ruggiero, and they show pictures of Ramona’s handsome grandfather. There is clearly a family resemblance. Joy says people call Ramona “Lucifer” and Ramona corrects her saying she prefers “Lucifina” because she is a girl. Ramona says she is nice to everyone, but if anyone attacks her, she will attack back. Joy says she heard that Ramona threatened Al Pacino, who played her grandfather in the movie Donnie Brosco. Ramona says, that what she told him was that she wanted him to play her grandfather as a loving family man who liked to dress well. Ramona says she had no idea how involved her grandfather was in the mob until Jennifer Graziano gave her the book Donnie Brosco to read, and then she was devastated. Joy wants to know why “people come at her” (Ramona) because Joy says no one ever came at her before. Ramona answers, “I’ll have to talk to someone about that off camera.” Joy seems taken aback by her answer and Drita gets an apprehensive look.
Joy gets around to Carla and Renee and says they have one of the longest running friendships on the show, but with friends like them, who needs enemies? They show several clips of Carla and Renee fighting with each other. Renee says they fight, but they are close friends. Joy wants to know what is it about Carla that gets under Renee’s skin? Renee says it’s because she is calm. Joy says, Carla called her a “bipolar b*tch,” what bothers her more, the bipolar or the b*tch? Renee says the bipolar because she was never diagnosed. They get into the incident where Carla did not visit or call Renee when she had serious surgery complications. Carla insists she didn’t know things had gotten so bad for Renee or she would have called. Drita swears that Jenn did tell her what happened to Renee, but insisted that she not tell anyone, so she didn’t mention it to Carla. Renee says that when she said she would “crack Carla’s head open,” she was talking out of her ass.
Karen sheds light on many issues
Karen speaks up because she really needs to clarify something. Karen says she NEVER told Renee that Carla insinuated anything about Junior or Renee. Karen says she was being protective and did tell Renee to be careful about what people around her are saying, and Renee took it the wrong way.
Soon Joy is in a state of utter disbelief for the rest of the show!
Now Joy gets into the war between Carla and Drita vs. Karen and Ramona. We get to see a bunch of clips. Joy wants to know why Carla pretended to be friends with Karen and Ramona when it’s evident that she didn’t want to be friends with them at all. Carla says that when she is with them it always turns into a Drita issue and she didn’t want to talk about Drita behind her back. Karen speaks up again to correct a misconception. This time it’s to discusses the dinner she and Carla had to resolve their differences. Karen says they spoke about Carla’s family a good part of the time, but she won’t bring up those issues on national television out of respect for her family. Carla denies they spoke about her family. Karen insists that they did, but she won’t reveal what was said. Carla says you better not bring up my family. Ramona says that she and Carla had put their issues aside and all of a sudden Carla and Ramona are accusing each other of lying. They are both hearing things about what the other has said behind their backs to other people. Karen gets heated and blurts out that Carla slept with her uncle for eight years and he was a married man. Carla is clearly caught off guard and makes a feeble, defensive attempt to deny it (more in my two cents about this story). Karen elaborates that the man is not Karen’s uncle by blood, but through the tradition of the lifestyle. The discussion ends with Carla calling Karen and Ramona “fools“…a couple of times. Joy calls for a break in hopes the ladies calm down.
Drita in fight mode, AGAIN!
Joy brings up Renee’s “Celebration of Life” party.” Lots of clips of the event. Drita was pissed about the whole affair. She says she went there for Renee. She wanted to pop in, say hello and leave. She didn’t want to talk to Karen. She didn’t ask to talk to Karen. Big Ang takes the blame for trying to get Drita and Karen to talk to each other. Karen tries to once again state the truth and clear up misconceptions. Karen says she wanted to talk to Drita all summer, but Jennifer kept telling her Drita was not ready. Drita says she never heard that Karen wanted to talk to her. Jennifer is called up to the set and asked what happened. Jenn says Karen did ask to speak to Drita several times and Drita kept saying she wasn’t ready to talk to Karen. Drita was ready the day before Renee’s party when she texted Karen. By the time Karen received those texts she was pissed herself. Drita wasn’t ready to talk for weeks, she spread rumors about putting Karen in the hospital and now, the day before this big party, she suddenly wants to talk? Karen didn’t answer the text messages and figured she would see Drita at the party. Jenn says they agreed to talk at the party and they both promised Jennifer there would be no fighting. Karen says she was angry because by the time Drita was ready to talk she had been hearing all summer that Drita and Carla were going around saying Drita put Karen in the hospital. Drita says she understands where Karen was coming from.
Ramona tells Drita off!
Drita felt that she was railroaded into talking to Karen. Joy brings up the fact that Drita threw the first punch. Ramona says she didn’t want anyone to fight. She went out there because she could see, from the body language, that things were getting heated and she was trying to protect both Karen and Drita. She knows how they get when they fight and they were on a balcony. She tried to diffuse the situation. Carla thinks that Ramona was wrong for interfering while Karen and Drita were talking. Drita says she felt set up by everyone. Ramona says she respects Drita as a mother and she likes her kids. Drita says they weren’t getting along and she should have never butted into their conversation. And Drita is offended that Ramona said she respected her as a mother! Karen is dying to talk again, but Drita and Ramona are yelling at each other and cursing. Renee screams “No! We’re gonna talk about the party and that’s it!” Drita says she will bring in her people and “unleash the beasts!” Ramona says she will bring in her people and they will “light up the place!” Jenn comes in to try to calm everyone down. Joy has lost control of the discussion. Drita walks off.
Jenn tries to calm the situation
Renee screams "NO" to the fighting!
Preview of next week show: Drita says to Ramona, “After the show, we’re fighting!” Joy covers her mouth.
MY TWO CENTS
The Reunion Show Part 1 delivers the goods! I would like to subtitle this “The Truth Exposed” because a lot of things have been brought into the light. I have a lot to say, but will it make any sense? Let’s see. Oy vey. I’ll take this topic by topic, and focus on the highlights.
In the discussion about Junior, Renee reveals for the first time ever, that she was in the hospital in January because she suffered a miscarriage. Now we have more reasons for Renee’s extreme emotional reactions to everything. Pregnancy releases hormones that can affect ones mood. And suffering a miscarriage was another tremendous loss for Renee. I was surprised to hear this and felt very bad for Renee, having had a miscarriage myself many years ago. Obviously, Renee wasn’t thinking clearly at the time, if she allowed herself to get pregnant, knowing that Junior would be going to jail soon. Even if she thought her future was with Junior, she admits that he wasn’t acting right and she even suspected he was cheating. On top of that, there were her health issues which hadn’t been resolved yet. She still needed more corrective surgery and I’m not even sure she was healed enough physically and emotionally for her body to go through a pregnancy. In any case, Junior has hurt Renee time and time and time again. I think Renee should order a case of blue balls and place them all over her house.
We saw many clips of every mob wife saying she was “DONE” with all the drama. I’m glad Joy said “let’s get real, no one is done with the drama.” And where is the proof? Just a few minutes later a war breaks out on stage between feuding couples Drita/Carla and Karen/Ramona. I just wish I had a freakin’ transcript. These women talk so fast and with the bleeps, it’s almost impossible to get a direct quote out of anyone, except Big Ang, who talks nice and slow. The first sign of an “issue,” that I notice, comes from Joy’s question to Ramona, “Why do people come at you? No one ever came at me.” Ramona’s cryptic answer, “I’ll have to talk to someone about that off camera.” And then Ramona smiles and we all know what it means. Joy is suddenly speechless and afraid to probe further and Drita has a “scared” expression on her face, as though the comment was meant for her. Was it? I think so. Ramona was looking and smiling in her direction. Stay tuned for Reunion part two!
The rehashing of the Renee and Carla fights with more video clips is nothing new. What is new, is that Karen finally gets the opportunity to address a serious misconception that many had. When Karen and Carla met, Carla said some things about Junior and Renee, to which Karen said in the green screen, “I don’t know what Carla was insinuating.” Karen says she never said that to Renee. I believe Karen. Why would Karen get Renee even more upset than she already was, by telling her something that Carla said, when she didn’t even know what Carla meant? Everyone was accusing Karen of telling Renee, but no one stopped to consider that there is an entire film crew who heard the conversation and maybe one of them told Renee? Renee basically confirms that Karen didn’t say anything. Good for you Karen! The truth always comes out. And there is a lot more truth to come out too.
Now we get into the season two “war” between the feuding couples: Drita/Carla and Karen/Ramona. Joy is right, Carla was pretending to be Karen and Ramona’s friend. There is no way Carla wanted to go to the Poconos, but someone convinced her to do it. Why? They needed some drama to go down maybe, or Carla needed a few extra dollars for shoes? Whatever the case, anyone with eyes could see she wasn’t a “happy camper.” Carla’s answer to Joy is that it always turns into a Drita issue when she talks with them. Another truth comes from Karen at this point. I can see the frustration in Karen’s face to have to constantly be correcting Carla. Karen says when they met to resolve their differences, they spent a good deal of time discussing Carla’s family. Carla says no, it was all about Drita. Of course, that is what we saw as viewers, thanks to poor editing. Karen seemed to make a 180 degree turn around about Carla on the screen, but so much of that conversation was edited out it never felt believable. Karen says they did discuss Carla’s family, but out of respect for them, she will not bring up the issues on national television. Carla is very tight lipped about her family and has been from the very beginning. But, it’s been said that Karen’s father, Sammy Gravano, was allegedly instrumental in intervening on Louis Facciolo’s behalf with the mob many years ago, and in so doing, saved his life. Maybe Karen believes that their family history deserves some loyalty and respect that Carla clearly lacks?
Then all hell breaks loose! Carla and Ramona start calling each other liars! Karen, still upset that Carla lied about their discussion about her family, blurts out another truth, “And you f*cked my uncle for eight years” and he was married. Karen quickly clears up the fact that the man wasn’t related to her by blood, but he was an “uncle” in the tradition of the lifestyle they were raised in. Renee races off the stage. I ask myself why? Is it to avoid being around another fight? Or is it that she doesn’t want Joy to question her about what Karen just said? After all, Renee knew Carla, they were close friends, and if anyone would know the truth about this, it would be her. Never mind, the truth always comes out! And soon too...
Well I was on twitter last night, where truths often come out, and am going to fill in some of the blanks for you now. The “uncle” Karen was referring to was Michael “Mikey Scars” DiLeonardo, a close associate of her father, Sammy. You may recall seeing his name in other blogs, such as Carla Facciolo’s Scars. Carla was “Mikey Scars” mob mistress for some years. If there was ever any doubt about that, there isn’t now. Why? While I was taking notes for the recap, I popped into Twitter and who do I see tweeting? None other than “Mikey Scars” ex-wife, Toni Marie Ricci, who was married to him at the time and is a friend of Karen’s . She has nothing nice to say about Carla, as you would expect. Yet, she can’t give too much away because she is doing an episode of “I Married A Mobster” in June, and who knows what details might be revealed in her story. Personally, I can’t wait to watch and blog that show! So another truth comes out, that Karen sheds light on. A truth which Carla, the liar, denies. Carla, the same hypocrite mob wife, who is angry at all the other women that Joe cheated on her with, was once one of those women herself! Interesting right? I hope Joe’s girlfriend is reading this blog, she may need the facts! Moving on…
In the Celebration of Life party discussion another lie is exposed by Karen! This time it’s Drita, who has a selective memory. Karen is utterly frustrated saying she was trying to talk to Drita all summer, but was told Drita wasn’t ready. Drita demands to know who told her that! This is the first she is hearing of this! Karen is totally exasperated. She asks Jennifer to please come forward and clear up this issue. Jennifer says, yes, Karen asked her several times to talk to Drita, BUT Drita wasn’t ready to talk every time. Who is lying now??? Drita “forgot” the several times she was asked and doesn’t want to call Jenn a liar? Right! Jenn backed up Karen, Drita doesn’t have a leg to stand on. Ugh, by now I am feeling so bad for Karen, who has had to deal with lies all season long without being able to speak up and tell the truth. Karen is the real deal and has nothing to hide!
Now for the last of it. Ramona saying she respects Drita as a mother and likes her kids AND Drita going into “fight mode” because she is offended by that compliment, saying, “don‘t bring up the fact that I am a mother!” WTF moment right here! You can bring up all the fights she has had in the past, all the people she put in the hospital, the fact that she curses worse than a sailor, that she raps to lyrics she wouldn’t want her children to hear, that she promotes fighting and some of her “fans” emulate her violent attitude, but whatever you do, DO NOT compliment the fact that she is a mother and has two beautiful girls! Thems fightin’ words! Come on! If there was ever any DOUBT that Drita looks for excuses to fight, this has to settle it once and for all. Oh and by the way, KUDOS to Ramona for acknowledging that Drita is a good mother and has wonderful children inspite of her she feels about Drita herself. That’s someone who is being “real.” How does it all end? Drita and Ramona get up screaming over this mother of a complement. Drita wants to bring in her people and “unleash them like beasts” and Ramona’s people will come in and “light up the place.” Jenn comes on the set to try to calm everyone down…good luck with that. Joy is paralyzed in her seat. Drita walks off the set. I drop my pen and try to resuscitate my hand, which has had a seizure from writing.
Next’s week’s preview: Drita says to Ramona, “After the show we are fighting!” Joy covers her mouth.
I’m getting a front row seat. I know I missed something along the way. My head still hurts, but I know some people are dying for the recap. What did you think?
95 comments:
been waiting for this since last night. Lol. I also picked up on what Karen said about Carla and " Her Uncle." then I seen on twitter A tweet by a Toni and then of course I had to look up your article on Mikey Scars and then It clicked. Makes me wonder if that was something Karen had been wanting to say for awhile and couldn't until now since his ex may expose it in June.
Lucky,
My take is Karen has always known the information. However, she revealed it because Carla attempted to lie about their conversation stating it was about Drita when in fact it was about how Sammy intervened on her father's behalf.
I do have a question. do you guys happen to know anything about Leah DeSimone's father? I haven't been able to find out anything about him. And what made me curious is that people keep making comments on blogs that he has nothing at all to do with the mob.
I have to say that it answers a lot of question about the Carla/Karen sit down. I recall thinking that Karen looked insane during the sitdown.
Lol..loved it..
Great recap! I just have two comments to make, both about Drita....One is I felt she went off on Ramona about the "mother" comment because she doesn't give a crap what Ramona thinks about her good or bad. Two is about her not being ready to talk to Karen until the day before Renee's party. My first thought was there was some manipulation going on by the producers to keep Drita and Karen apart so it could be filmed at Renee's party. They might not have known it would break out into a fight, but I'm sure they knew there would be drama. Maybe that's not the case, but that's how it looked to me. I'm not sticking up for Drita, just trying to look at all sides.
I just literally laughed out loud Funlady28. I remember watching the scene and thinking, "What in the hell?!" Seconds later, I thought there is something they're not airing. The scene made no sense.
Lucky, I haven't researched Leah's father. I can't promise that I will do to my busy schedule now. If we learn more in the future, we'll definitely blog about it.
I really enjoyed the recap! Chiara you did a great job as always, my favorite part is always your 2 cents.
Thanks Mob Mistress, so glad you enjoyed it. Anon, They may have kept Drita and Karen apart, but they could have filmed their sit down any time. Drita didn't deny it when Jennifer said she wasn't ready. I also heard the same thing else where, on Twitter, while it was going on. Karen always wanted a sit down.
The reunion proved to me that both Carla and Drita are terrible at lying. They couldn't avoid their lies last night. It proved that Carla is two-faced and condescending. It was nice to see the truth come out and I can't wait until the rest comes out next week. I was reading comments on FB from Drita fans and it amazes me how people glorify "beating someone up". I don't get it, but then I realize her followers are made up of teenagers.
I think the reason Drita became so upset at Ramona about the mother comment is due to Ramona saying that Drita coaches her kids to make herself look better. I think it's still a sensitive issue.
Twitter Anon (not to be confused with typical 'anons':)
Reunion comments: what was learned?
Renee suffered a miscarriage
Jenn G made a 'cameo'
someone may have slept with an uncle of one of the wives!
other than that, everything else was a review of season 2. Thats it!
oh yes, season 3 will revolve around Drita/RaMona.
Nothing really 'big'. Did anybody else see a subdued Karen last night? I think that Karen now understands that she has a business and her behavior reflects now her partner as well (this doctor partner she has) So she needs to be 'careful' or things could backfire for both. Anyway, part 2 of the reunion may tell more of things to come.
PS I do not see a season 4 unless there is an addtion of 'wives' to the show. I repeat, I do not think that over the long haul 'Chicago' will stand up to MV ratings. see ya!
Nice recap! I agree with you on your observations. I thought all the ladies looked beautiful, until they started yapping their jaws. "afta da show, me and yous ah fightin" - Why is Drita threatening now? Oh yeah, because the cameras are rolling and she gets to act like a stage monkey for all of her fans to gloat on! Even though she has had ample opportunity to chew on Ramona's face like a leach, being she lives a mere 5 minutes away. She is a drama queen who is her own worst enemy. Just like the whole boxing thing, she trained and trained to take out her frustrations in the ring and just before match time she decides that it wouldn't be good for her kids?? Huh? But street fighting is ok? She just couldn't admit she was afraid she'd be shown as a coward, just like she is afraid that Ramona wouldn't surrender to her threats. She knows Ramona isn't going to back down from her, that is why she chooses to "unleash her beast" on TV where there is enough security to ensure she doesn't get her bell rung. It's so transparent.
Here's what I can't wait for...RaMona and Karen keep referring to the "truth" and how they think Drita doesn't want it to come out. In the preview, it is brought up again and Drita says, "What truth?!" That's what I want to know. What big thing do we not know....it must be something that no one is talking about and we may never know, unfortunately. On another note, I was glad to see Jenn Graziano and felt SO bad when Renee made her news about her miscarriage known. By the way, does anyone know what Renee was saying when Karen told her to be quiet? I missed it. I, too, would like a transcript...lol
Deana, the truth on Drita could be anything. Karen knew her very well and Ramona knew her through Karen and her own sister. Many people have a skeleton or two in their closet. We are going to have to wonder about Drita until the truth comes out.
Sigh...yes, I guess we will have to wait. Lol...on a funny note, did anyone notice how nervous that crew member looked getting in between the women? LOL!
That was a great blog and great 2 cents! Love it! I know you have to be exhausted by now, lol! Ok, most of us had already known something shady with Carla because you really have to watch those quiet ones anyway! She is very 2faced and very hypocritical. Renee really went thru a ringer this season and although I feel bad for her I just cannot stand how she plays both sides of the fence. Im not sure why but it really really irked me after last night. I noticed since they taped reunion, it seems as through she only hangs with Drita and Carla now, and honestly I feel Ramona and Karen have been more loyal and better friends to her from jump! I so agree with your 2cents about Dri and Ramona! Why in the hell would you pick that to get mad about??? My mind is still blown with that. Does she have a hearing problem? I would like to know what Drita's thoughts are today on the compliment heard around the world, lol! Ramona who I find to be very honest and upfront, was respecting Drita even though she has animosity toward her. I just can't even with that one.
Nicole I feel the same, Im just exhausted form repeating myself, lol! What is funny to me is that Ramona does not act half as bad as Drita ye she gets so much hate and negativity. She doesn't seem to be a liar except to Carla and Drita, She never backs down from getting threatened constantly or swung at by bone thugs and Drita. I don't get it! She appears to be a real friend and not fake or phony, and she does not claim to be a jack of all trades like Dri. I am floored by comments all over the net about Ramona being hated on and talked about like Drita SHOULD BE! Frusrating as a viewer.
I noticed last after a comment is posted it needs approved... do you only select your favorite ones or do you post them all? Just wondering. Happy Monday!
We post the ones that remain on topic, are somewhat respectful, etc.
Twitter Anon
A comment about Drita. Whom I happen to 'like' by the way (As I do all of the MV) Drita is apparently immersed herself in the 'gangsta' scene or 'hip hop' and that is absolutley fine! She idloizes rappers, its like shes a kid who is living her dream and exactly what shs is doing. That is her right! She has adopted now more than ever, this rough and tough take no prisoner attitude. Does anybody disagree? Even her vernacular (no, this is not a 'dirty' word lol) has changed. My point? Last nights outburst was evident of this fact. I think so anyway. Drita also once said that she wants to marry 'out of the life style' a regular guy. Is she kidding? At this point I do see her marrying a doctor or lawyer. lol I am not picking on her but maybe she needs to take a step back and examine things closer and she is not the only one.
I have to chuckle when individuals reveal themselves.
I found the best blog ever! Thank you Chiara! You are very observant and def keep it real without taking any sides, it is what it is!
Mob Mistress
was your comment directed at me? if so please explain........
Twitter Anon
I cannot believe what Im seeing on another site. I pray for Carla when she gets the wrath of Karen- what a lying biatch. Mike Tyson? Really..who is a clown now Carla? Anyway- thank you guys so much for keeping it real and together over here, thats why I love this site! You guys are the most accurate with your opinions and blogs, and viewers like me truly appreciate it!
Great blog Chiara some light was shed for me who Toni Marie is on the recap.
They all looked real nice all dressed up. I have to say Karen really handled herself real well it looks as if she really has moved on with her life and good for her. I think season 3 might be Romona and Drita drama. Carla and Drita are birds of a feather and stick together they both sure can lie and when there caught in a lie they get real offensive there only looking like fools. It was nice to finally see Jen!! All in all the show got crazy at the end and I can't wait to see part 2 and what happens...lol
It seemed like Renee was freaking out bcuz she didn't want Ramona and Karen to reveal something. It was hard to hear in the melee but she kept saying "I know it affects you but we're not putting it out there now, we're just talking about the party!" So obviously there is something.
I can't wait for Drita to knock Lucifina out. I'm still laughing about giant with a J. Omg. She isn't that bright.
After all the stuff that happened on Twitter today, I can't WAIT for season 3!
Funlady, lol you mast be getting two shows! I guess some went to war!
;-)And I thought the PEACE wasn't going 2 Last.......yea...anyways..
MY FAVORITE PARTS THAT I CANT GET ENOUGH OF!.........
"I Could Have Brought MANY people there 4 Me and they would have UNLEASHED LIKE BEAST!!!!"
"YEA, and Mine woulda LIT UP THE PLACE B**** SO BRING IT ON!!!!"
LMAO~!!
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"Carla F**** MY UNCLE.".....
........0_0...........
(at this point the crickets died)
and Renee runs like someone just screamed
"FIRE!!!EVERYONE GET OUT NOW!"
LMAO!!!!!
She was out of there so Fast!
She didn't even look back!)
Last night had me in tears!
;-)This is why I LOVE them,
u never know what 2 Expect!;-)
Yes, Yes! It was crazy! I had to stop working for a second,lol. Love the drama :-)
What happened on Twitter? I am not a tweeter. Fill us in!
I missed two things....why did Karen tell Renee to be quiet that one time and when did Karen clarify that the guy they are talking about isn't really her uncle...
Deana, Karen clarified right after she said it so you might be able to find it on the sneak peek Realness. Why Renee was told to be quiet, I need a transcript LOL
LOL-I would also love a transcript. I wanted one when I saw the previews...I am going to go back and look at the sneak peek again, thank you.
Funlady I Love the Drama!
Deana I missed a lot, it could be because I was 2 busy thinking "Uncle Who??? and Where is Renee going???"
Or maybe its just because I blacked out from shock.
I learned one thing...u cant judge people by just watching them on TV, because (if i said it once i'll say it a thousand times) I never saw the Carla thing coming.-_- i just didn't.-_-
CeeCee has me cracking up!
Actually after Renee said she miscarried, all else kinda went mute for me so I'll have to re-watch. I found that admission so shocking/stunning, the fighting was minor compared to that statement. Good reunion though can't wait for part 2!
LOL!Deana Ill talk 2 u Next Week if everybody makes it! Its getting UGLY as H** on TWITTER!!!
Follow @ToniMarieRicci i just started Following her, a woman
@heatherliberio told her that Carla said something.
Im not tweeting or retweeting a thing because I AM NOT GETTING IN 2 IT!
I mean it, im not tweeting one letter, not ANYTHING as long as this mess is going on!
The only thing i have tweeted is that that i am Relaxing with rain.
-_-
People are more then welcome 2 listen 2 the Cher song #RainRain that i posted...That song might be up there 4 awhile, well..i might tell people "goodnight"...but thats it!
My advice..Read the tweets but dont in 2 it! This thing is about 2 BLOW!
LMAO!TALK 2 U GUYS NEXT WEEK!;-)
;-):-)
I think renee will always go back to Carla and be loyal to her. Remember, Renee's real friend is Carla. SHe wasn't close to Karen and Ramona growing up. They were close to Jennifer. I feel bad for Renee, but she definitely frustrated me during this reunion. I find her frustrating in general. She's definitely team Drita/Carla.
I thought that Ramona revealed a lot as well. She revealed some things about Drita not wanting her on the show, running out of the room when she walks in, about Drita preventing some interview(?) that she tried to have.
A lot was said and not heard, I felt, during this reunion. They skipped what Ramona said to Drita when they were up and yelling( did anybody notice Drita looked like she had tears in her eyes during this time), they muted, or I couldn't make out what Renee said that got Karen to tell her to shut up.
After reading all these comments, especially the ones pointing out what Ramona was trying to say, I need to go watch the show again!
@The Other Renee,
I do feel bad that Renee miscarried.
Its just some things are so personal that i don't feel comfortable talking about them, especially if i cant find the right words 2 say.
But trust me im one of Renee's biggest fans.
And Ur right cant wait 4 part 2!;-)
I thought a transcript might be helpful too or at least the closed captioning function where you could "read" what they are writing (but I think many words would not come through properly in the subtitles).
There was some hinting at the fact that Karen may have also been with a married man by Carla which Karen was firm in denying but anything is possible.
I think Karen told Renee "be quiet" at least twice and I thought it was in relation to the rooftop incident at her birthday party.
It seemed that Drita was trying to remind Karen that she held out an olive branch by inviting Karina to Aleeya's dance recital during that time that her and Karen weren't speaking between the fights but Karen was just brushing it aside.
I think Drita was also trying to get her "you should have never interfered" point across to Ramona and Ramona was failing to get it. And, in all honesty. what does being a mother have to do with any of their personal arguments and issues?
Again, Ramona may or may not live near where Drita lives but it's her boyfriend's place and she's very lucky to have a nice guy who is so kind and generous to let her and her kids live in his home.
I'm very interested to see what happens next week like we all are!
To the last Anon, I think what Ramona was saying about Drita being a mother and liking her girls is, that she did not want to see Drita get hurt in a fight or God forbid go over the railing of the balcony. Nothing more than that
I disagree. I think Ramona is full of it. I really doubt she cares that much about Drita as a mother or anything else. If she really did not want them to fight than all she had to say is "Not tonight...this is for Renee or she could have sent someone else out there. The minute she started pointing in Drita's face you could see the writing on the wall.
Just wanted to point out something. On Drita's twitter account a fan asks if she and Ramona had a fight after the reunion show. Drita said that security would not allow it..On Ramona's twitter the same question was posed to her. Ramona said she wasn't allowed to say. Is there an unspoken rule about the WB not revealing things that have not been shown yet?
I agreed with chiara. Ramona was referring she didn't want to see Drita hurt or fly off that balcony lol. Ramonas not scared of Drita at all. Idk if anyone noticed when they both got up, Karen went and stand next to Carla, but also closed to Drita. Anyway I can't wait to watch part 2.
Best reunion ever:)
Wow!!!!! This was insane!!! Too much! I'm gonna have to watch a few more times before I can actually say everything I want to. Thanks for the remarkable job Chiara! You made it a transcript of some sort lol
What reason would Ramona have for wanting them to fight? Drita may be a joke when it comes to fighting, but her style is to do something stupid and dirty like maybe try to have her guy friend push her off the balcony or whatever. Starting a fight between her friend and a mental two-year-old with no self-control who acts like an animal, really? I think she just forgot how dumb and immature Drita is and tried to interact with her as if she's an adult. Bad move.
Drita has never displayed enough intelligence to listen to reason. When questioned, she immediately goes on the defense and uses the F bomb as a cover for her lack of common sense. It's easier just to fight right? Maybe she will grow up someday.
Well Drita was smart enough to listen to reason and work out her feud with Renee, and she would've worked out her feud with Karen at Renee's party if Ramona hadn't interfered.
Love the blog. I really enjoyed the reunion. All the ladies showed their true colors during the reunion. Drita came off as the animal she truly is. Drita's a violent hood rat. She's filled with anger and hate. She's vile. I swear, I think she has a dick. She acts like a guy. Carla, the liar or should I say 'lire'? Not the brightest one by far. Carla does 2 things, she lies or sits there mouth shut, afraid to speak. Knowing she has nothing to add to the show. Carla, you're a bore. And a whore.
Whenever someone on Twitter say's something not so nice to her, she immediately calls them "jealous". Jealous? Of what Carla? What is everyone who doesn't like you jealous of? Please elaborate. It's about time you were outted on the show for being a RATS mistress. Tsk, tsk.
Big Ang, love ya! You're a breath of fresh air. Renee, love you too! Keep your head up! You're a strong woman, I admire your strength.
Karen, you're a class act. So honest, so upfront. So real. You hold your own all the time. A true friend. Someone I'd love to have in my corner. Love the bond you and Ramona have! Ramona, so glad you came onto the show! You got heart and a huge pair!
You tell it how it is, never how it might be. Your loyalty to Karen and your love for her is beautiful, and so are you!
Jenn, you look great! Thanks for a great show! Can you please replace Carla? At least consider it.
She brings nothing good to the show. She's dumb as a rock and a pathological liar. Reality? I think not.
Her conversation with Karen was going nowhere before she started panic punching. Her attitide was I don't give a ---- what you have to say, why are you talking. It's easy for Carla and Drita to work things out with Renee because Renee is a pushover for them. Drita could punch a hole in the wall and the debris could hit Renee and send her to the hospital, Renee would apologize for having her house in a bad place to hurt Drita's tender little fist.
To the anon that posted about the other site. About Mike Tyson and Karen. If Carla really said it that's kinda low. And of course there is the fact that Carla is trying dent that she knew the guy was married. Unless there was more than one married man.
Please... ramona did not go over there to diffuse the situation. She and karen set drita up. When drita said " what the f*ck is going on right now", the camera goes over to ramona and she's smiling. That's an indication that they had intentions of jumping drita. I don't believe that "your a mother" crap because if that was the case ramona would not have said "give you the mike and tell everybody what you said abut me for the past two years". The onversation was between karen and drita NOT Ramona. Drita has mentioned several times that when someone attacks her verbally or physiaally, she blacks out and has anxieties. Example on the roof top Karen decided to get up in an agressive way in dritas face and there you go natural reaction. So for ramona getting punched, that's what she gets for stiking her nose where it doesn't belong period.
"Drita has mentioned several times that when someone attacks her verbally or physiaally, she blacks out and has anxieties. Example on the roof top Karen decided to get up in an agressive way in dritas face and there you go natural reaction."
Do you wear glassed or contacts? If so, did you not wear them when watching the roof top scene?
I'm just curious. When Karen stood up, she was no where near Drita's face. Drita ran over to her location in full on attack mode. You may believe her blackout & anxiety excuses. She just goes into panic mode each and everything the truth is going to come out or she doesn't have the words to use during a conversation.
As always thanks for sharing your perspective and opinion, have a wonderful day.
Karen lunged across at Renee at Drita in the midst of an argument. It looked to me as if she was lunging at Drita and I don't think she has a hug in mind. JMHO
I respect FunLady when read her comment and said, "Maybe she's right and my memory is off."
I watched the rooftop scene again. My opinion remains the same. She definitely was not in Drita's face. Karen stood up, Renee grabbed her... the rest is history.
Lol! I though the same thing when I read your comment and re-watched it as well.
We're proof that individuals can disagree and respect one another. It's also just not that serious though funny at times.
LOL I rewatch it every time Funlady says "lunged"...I love this blog!
Look, have you heard of the adrenaline before? I've been in dritas position before because I've boxed and took martial arts a couple years ago.When fighters get so angry they "see red" and they zone out. They become consumed by their anger, and act purely through aggression. That's why they normally can't believe what they did afterward. Like I said, I don't condone violence but if someone provokes me or hits me first,I will snap just like drita and attack you. Trust me I would have agreed with ramona to stop the conversation before it got physically BUT, she didn't when she put her two cents in it.
Um, Anon? Ramona didn't get punched. That was Drita. Remember how Drita cried and cried and cried and cried and cried, and then she cried some more? That was because she got punched. Yeah, I know, someone accidentally caught the side of Ramona's mouth with a ring and gave her a cut she didn't even feel. It could have been anyone, but there's a chance it was Drita. Wow, what a badass. Even curled up in the fetal position sobbing she's the badass of badasses. I'm sure Ramona learned her lesson, she might get splashed with Drita's tears and they burn like getting hit with battery acid. That shit is toxic.
Ramona and Karen aren't responsible for Drita being a lunatic. If she can't control herself she should be in a hospital or something. I'm a paranoid head case and everything sets me off is not a defense. I mean yeah, maybe Ramona was going to signal to a group of aliens from the planet Zyrcon to come jump Drita. It's not impossible. It could happen, but it's not really too likely so most people wouldn't accept it as a reasonable justification for trying to sucker punch people, however unsuccessfully.
Anon: "so for Ramona getting pinched, that's what she gets..." funny-- I don't remember Ramnona getting punched, but what I DO remember is when Drita got her eye blacked out... much like her proclaimed blackouts? LOL. Ramona got nipped in the lip. When yours in a scuffle that happens. Drita wasn't some bad ass that straight up punched Ramona. Another thing I do remember that I really doubt you can deny is the face of pure fear planted on Dritas face during the reunion when Ramona got up. I don't blame her. As she had previously said, Ramona looks like a cold blooded bitch with empty eyes. I might be cautious when fighting someone like that. Drita is a liar and a punk. If you can't see that, then it's truly by pure choice, not lack of evidence.
I wonder at times who is really running the friendship between Carla and drita? People say its drita manipulating Carla but I think it might be the other way around. When a person is loud, acts tough and shows out, they are really insecure and weak. It's the quite ones who are really tough, strong. Carla runs that "friendship"
That said I think that Carla chooses to be "loyal" to drita because she doesn't like anyone else enough to hang out with them. I think Carla barely even cares about Renee. Carla is all about her, she hangs with drita because she amuses her. She defends Drita because she needs an ally on the show.
My little theory, what do you think?
Curly Girl
Drita isn't a fighter. Nobody ever tries to hit her first and everything provokes her. If she's zoning out and doesn't know what she's doing, then she shouldn't be around kids, first, she should be in anger management 7 days a week and she probably should be locked up somewhere for her own protection. Personally, I think she's fake as hell, watching her at the reunion flip out over nothing I didn't buy it. But if she's for real she needs help in learning how to act like a grown-up with impulse control.
I check into this every night just to keep up with the comments. However, I only conment when I see things that annoys me. For one lets be clear that karen is my fav mw, can tolerate everyone else (depending on the day) but have a strong dislike for Carla!!!! Jumping to the point....I hate when folk justify Drita's pitbull behavior. Theres absolutely no reason for a grown ass woman to act like so. Her sucker punches and blackouts by no means make her tough. My dad was a pro boxer who taught me to fight and his first rule was to never fight when your angry because you can't rationalize your thoughts and moves. Think about why boxers are always calm and cocky. Next sad to say I was Drita when I was younger(and she older than me) and know first hand that when your tough and everyone knows it, it comes to a point that ppl wont even test you so you dnt have to be a mother acting like a hoodrat! Thats what happened btwn drita and karen in the balcony, her anger got the best of her, shethrew the first punch, lost controll and karen got the best of her. Ramona stepping in or otherwise.
I check into this every night just to keep up with the comments. However, I only conment when I see things that annoys me. For one lets be clear that karen is my fav mw, can tolerate everyone else (depending on the day) but have a strong dislike for Carla!!!! Jumping to the point....I hate when folk justify Drita's pitbull behavior. Theres absolutely no reason for a grown ass woman to act like so. Her sucker punches and blackouts by no means make her tough. My dad was a pro boxer who taught me to fight and his first rule was to never fight when your angry because you can't rationalize your thoughts and moves. Think about why boxers are always calm and cocky. Next sad to say I was Drita when I was younger(and she older than me) and know first hand that when your tough and everyone knows it, it comes to a point that ppl wont even test you so you dnt have to be a mother acting like a hoodrat! Thats what happened btwn drita and karen in the balcony, her anger got the best of her, shethrew the first punch, lost controll and karen got the best of her. Ramona stepping in or otherwise.
I like what The Truth says above. Agree with you, no need for a Momma to behave that way especially on national television. I definitely could give a you know what about Carla. The only time I liked her in 2 seasons is when her husband first came back from jail thats it. Crazy that the other 2 she fights with are only acting in self defense but yet people worship Drita and thinks she is so tough...SMH.
Chiara great blog as ALWAYS! I love how you break things down and of course your 2 cents section is my fav! Well, this episode certainly was revealing! I was shocked to hear Renee suffered a miscarriage! She is such a strong woman to have gone through all the things she has and come out the other side with a smile and a word of wisdom or two for others. Love her! Carla and Drita take notes, that is a woman with class. Not shocked or surprised in the least that Drita went to her fighting mode, it seems that is the only consistent thing she does on the show. I am getting sick of her to be honest. I find no productive reason she should be kept on the show, to me it seems that all she is accomplishing in her "role" is how to be a Bully. That is something the world DOES NOT need more of. Shame on you Drita! Instead of using your supposed "celebrity" to help others you are only encouraging this type of behavior in others. As for Carla, well.. it seems being a "gumada" has been quite profitable for her. I have zero respect for her. Instead of owning up to the "mistakes" she's made she chooses to lie and carry on as if nothing ever happened. I ask you, who exactly is the fool here? She and Drita deserve each other IMO. I am happy to see Karen was finally able to set some things straight and LOVED when she called Jenn up to the stage! I thought Drita was going to have a stroke! You could clearly see her back-peddling in that moment! Of course shortly after that she started up with the "panic punching". Where was Carla during all this? I thought she and Drita were thick as thieves? Oh, that's right Carla only has her OWN back. My bad. Kudos to Karen for keeping it together as long as she did. I know first hand how frustrating it is to be the one to take that higher road. Yes, she did lose her cool and blurt out that statement about Carla however, I believe that Carla should have kept her mouth shut and kept the "deal" she made. So, IMO the statement was deserved. I do feel bad about the families that are/were affected by that statement though. As I am sure Karen is too. As far as Ramona, you go girl! Never back down to the bully. Stand up for yourself and your beliefs. At least with Ramona you know where she is coming from. I respect that. I can't wait for part two to air! This should be interesting to say the least! Until then, I will see you around the blogs. ;)
The Truth I definitely agree with you on that Karen got the best of Drita during the fight. I still think Ramona shoud have minded her own business and stood inside. Just because Drita took a few boxing lessons that doesn't mean she was a professional fighter. She's a person with serious anger issues. IMO non of these broads can fight. The only reason Karen blacked Dritas eye was to prove a point (she felt embarrassed) by what happened on the rooftop. What's even more embarrassing was that Karen was bragging about something she didn't do on her own. Her sidekick was obviously ragdolling Drita. I don't agree with people attacking each other, andi definitely don't agree with 2 on 1 fights.
I am of the opinion some people are trying to excuse Drita swinging in the direction of two women. At the end of the day, if a person swings in my direction I'm defending myself. I'm not considering what the friend next to me is doing. I'm defending myself.
It's not different that some angry drunk in a bar or club who starts swinging and several individuals handle him or her. They are not jumping the drunk. The drunk swung in their direction and they have a right to defend themselves.
I do not believe Karen dotted Drita's eye to prove a point. They were in a fight. Karen got the best of her in that fight. There was nothing for Karen to be embarrassed about in regards to the rooftop. Renee in an attempt to prevent a fight & protect Karen held her down after Drita threw a candle.
Oh, please. Drita bragged about the rooftop even though not only was Karen pinned under Renee's weight, Drita was pushing her knee into Renee to make sure Renee couldn't get up. So now she's the Patron Saint of Fair Fighting?
Ramona and karen didn't jump Drita, Drita tried to sucker punch them and failed. And other people jumped in as well. What were they supposed to do, blame themselves for Drita's anger issues and just sit there for 2 months letting her air punch until they got hit (okay it might have taken a lot longer than two months)? If you can't take the fall out, don't start a fight. For all that she acts like Ramona's to blame, Drita ignored Ramona and went straight for Karen. So I guess maybe Ramona wasn't affecting her and she was just jumping the person she was mad at. Ramona and Drita were the ones talking and focusing attention on each other so Karen wouldn't be expecting anything coming her way at all. Which is what Drita was counting on when she swung at Karen. But, uh oh. Karen fought back, Drita got hurt. Boo freakin' hoo. "It's not fair! My punch was supposed to land, Karen was supposed to go down, Ramona was supposed to just stand there and then I was gonna punch her too! I had a whole plan in my head for what I wanted when I started panic punching, it didn't work out, so I'm the victim!"
Jesus, don't start swinging at a group then cr-cr-cr-crying like you're being ganged up on. It's instinct to defend yourself from a suckerpunching crazy person. Karen and Ramona didn't really have a lot of time to coordinate their evil master plan when Drita chose to start shit.
I think what's "way more embarassing" is Drita's bragging about things she didn't happen and living in this fantasy world when she pretends fighting embarasses her as a mom but then she also has to pretend that she's punched and hurt people when she loses a fight.
Anon, what were you watching? Karen blacked Drita's eye because she got jumped and was defending herself. If she wanted to prove a point she would have jumped Drita.
Yeah, she laughed about it afterward. Drita never stops running her mouth about what a badass she is. Never. I don't fight unless someone jumps me, but damn, I'd be laughing and bragging too. Come on, the biggest mouth runner in the neighborhood jumps you, gets pasted and won't stop crying, oh and then lies about what happened even though it's on film, you wouldn't laugh at her? Even at the fact that for once she had to shut up because she was too busy crying to be bs'ing for a while? The way Drita's fans act it's like she's a first grader getting picked on by adults instead of a grown-up who understands how the world operates.
Let me guess, now that we know for sure Drita's a mouth running joke, the next time she jumps someone if they swing back they're bullying poor fighting-impaired w'il Drita? It's nobody else's responsibility to protect and coddle her from her stupidity, poor socialization and mental issues. Go around jumping people when you can't fight and you will get consequnces sooner or later. People have tolerance for their family and maybe their friends but not some random punch-happy fool.
LMBO!!! I love this blog!! I was not justifying Drita throwing the first punch or like many are saying "sucker punching" Karen or Ramona. What she did was wrong, and they had every right to defend themselves. But I will stand my ground and repeat that Ramona should have minded her own business!!!! Karen is not a little girl. As we all seen she can definitely hold her own.
About Karen being embarrassed: I think she felt humiliated by what Drita did and all the crap she was saying around SI. I honestly can't stand a person who fights with assistance and brags about it, not my cup of tea.
That's how fights work: you fight the first time it doesn't go in your favor and the second time around you prove your point.
Let me ruffle your feathers a bit!!! Karen got attacked. Drita got jumped. I am not choosing sides just calling it how I see it! ;0);0)
Ramona did not get involved in a fight! She went out there to tell them to stop ruining Renee's party. She wasn't worried about Karen not being able to hold her own, she was worried about Renee being upset and about someone being knocked off the balcony if a fight broke out. If anyone should have minded her business it was Big Ang for pushing the issue at the wrong place, wrong time, but Ramona is not to blame for using common sense.
Karen didn't have anything to be embarassed about, what happened on the roof wasn't a fight, it was Drita being a thug and trying to stomp on someone who was pinned. She had reason to be pissed, but the second time you prove your point when you're the one looking for a rematch. That's not what happened here. God knows Karen probably wants to punch Drita in the head every time she opens her dumb, annoying mouth, much like millions of TV viewers across America, but she manages to exercise self-control until Drita starts panic punching. Do I think Karen was terribly, terribly sad that Drita started swinging and gave Karen the opportunity to paste her in self-defense? Um. Probably not. lol I'm sure punching Drita was really pretty enjoyable. But, that's Drita's fault, not Karen's. Drita was even talking about bringing a bunch of people to the reunion to jump Ramona, so talk to her about bragging and assistance. Mob Mistress is right, don't swing in two people's direction create a free for all and also have some of your friends, including at least one guy, jump in on your side and then sob about being outnumbered.
I'm not sure what people watch when they say Ramoma jumped Drita. Ramona was standing quiet, letting them be. When she saw them get heated, she said ladies let's not do this here. Drita decided to throw a punch. How is that Ramomas fault? Now people are being held responsible for Driras poor socializing skills? How come everyone is responsible except for Drita who was the first person to throw a punch? Rooftop and Rene's party-- both events at which Drita CHOSE to get physical. I'm going to be honest, if I'm with a friend who I've known for years and someone attacks her, I will do whatever it takes to get that person off my friend. I would NEVER stand there and watch someone put hands on someone I care about and anyone that says other wise is full of it. Panic punch Drita would have started throwing punches if one of HER friends was being attacked in front of her too. Drita herself has said in the past that a lot of the fights SHE'S been in were because she was sticking up for someone else whom she felt she needed to protect. How come her wanna be hardass fans don't say "Drita should have minded her own business" in those cases? Ill rell you why: Because you guys are biased and refuse to see or acknowledge the obvious. Get real. Her fans are just claiming foul because wanksta wanna be got her ass handed to her. Go cry some more to someone that gives a flying rat's ass.
people are failing to see that Ramona DID instigate the fight by saying "Grab the mike and say what you said about me for the past two years". That fight at renee's party would NOT have happen if ramona kept her mouth shut. I know people have different opinions but people who keep saying "it's drita fault" need to watch that episode again. What would you do if you were conered by two women?
Now Kel! I know you were not directing that message at me! We have a difference of opinion. Get over it! You act like you break bread with these women. I'm not team Drita nor team Karen, I was just stating my opinion.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but Ramona didn't get punched right after she said ladies let's not do this here. Watch that episode again, because she had a few more things to say before Drita threw the famous "sucker-punch".
And I will repeat myself once again. If someone attacks you, you have every right to defend yourself.
But If you corner and bark at a pitbull, it will attack!!!
I love this blog!! But some people can get really sensitive if you have a difference of opinion. Wow!!!!!
We aren't failing to see anything. I've NEVER HIT SOMEONE OVER WORDS. Drita threw the first punch. The women had a right to defend themselves. No one was holding Drita against her will. She could've walked away.
If two people that I didn't like had me backed in a corner and were getting more aggressive I would believe they were going to attack.. Especially if one of those people felt that I had gotten the better of them in a previous altercation. I am not waiting for one or both of them to hit me first. It may be wrong but if I am honest with myself ( and I always am) I will come out swinging because it two of them and one of me. I know I'm going to lose but I am gonna cause as much damage as possible. Again... Not the most mature response but I don't like to be cornered and will react aggressively if approached aggressively. BTW...I haven't had a Physical altercation in decades( Felt I had to add a disclaimer,lol)
She wasn't cornered. Making a sarcastic comment isn't the same thing as backing someone up against a fence. Yeah, Drita is really dumb, and yeah, Ramona's words are too sophisticated for her to understand, but that's not an excuse to start swinging. Everyone in the world is smarter than Drita, so when she goes to her kid's school and the teacher says something she doesn't understand or some preschooler makes fun of her for being an illiterate fool, that's an excuse for her to jump over the table and try to get at them? She didn't feel threatened, she felt insulted. But, not even insulted enough to actually go for Ramona since Karen was the one she jumped.
Drita runs her mouth constantly, and no matter how much Ramona or anybody wants to beat the crap out of her for her whining, they all act civilized and let her talk without going for her. They yell back, but they don't punch. If she's so affected by words, she should learn to keep her own damn mouth shut on and off camera and there will be many less words coming back at her.
It always comes back to Drita being crazy and every stupid thing setting her off. It's she's crazy and everything sets her off, it's up to HER to get help and learn to control herself. It's not up to everyone else to tiptoe around trying to figure out if handing her a plastic cup or a glass is gonna cause her to smash out their windows.
Funlady, the problem with that is that by the logic Drita's always justified in sucker punching anybody, any time. "Go ahead, grab the mike and say shit about me if that will settle this" isn't a threat. Drita wasn't scared, she was mad. Things weren't going the way she wanted and she came out swinging. Karen didn't want to talk to her at all and neither did Ramona, they weren't squaring up or swinging, so only in her paranoid pea brain are they the aggressive ones. The bully who instigates every situation and never gets swung on is always the victim, anything "might" happen so starting is always self-defense.
I can't respond to what thoughts were in Drita's head because I wasn't in there with them. I have never bought that Ramona wanted to break them up. When you want to stop the drama, you do not bring up drama that you may have with the other person. A simple " This night is about Renee " is all that should have been said. When she included herself ( We'll get a mic and you can say whatever you've been saying about me for two years) that added a different component to the gathering. Now... I never said is was the right thing to do but I also can't say that I wouldn't have thought they were going to jump me if I was in the same position.
Thank you!! That's exactly my point!!!
It's Drita. The animal who can't be reasoned with. "This night is about Renee" was said. I'm trying to think of a nice way to put this, but there is no way any reasonable person could view what Ramona said as a threat or an indication she was about to get jumped. A snarky thing to say, maybe. Ramona isn't a saint and no doubt she was fed up with Drita. Her intentions don't even matter. She could have had the worst intentions in the world, but it doesn't matter. I don't jump people over a semi-snotty remark, and neither does anybody else who doesn't want to be fighting 24/7. Snarky comments aren't that rare. There was no threat, there was no danger, and if Drita from the projects was actually scared by that phrase coming out of Ramona's mouth, and actually felt cornered when she was nowhere near cornered, she better practice hiding under the bed because everything in the world must be terrifying to Drita.
What it comes down to is Drita talks more shit than anybody else on this show, yet Drita thinks words are an excuse for trying to put her hands on somebody. Good thing nobody else thinks that or she'd be in some trouble. The only way she's going to learn her lesson is someday she's going to put her hands on the wrong person, they're going to press charges and when she tries these weak defenses and excuses she's going to be laughed out of court with an empty bank account.
We'll have to agree to disagree on how things played out on the balcony. From my perspective she was cornered but not everyone will see it my way and I can respect that.
Anon whom directled a comment at me (since I don't even know your name). You're right. I was not directing that message at you. Common sense would tell you this because I didn't address anyone during my post. If I wanted to direct something to you, trust me, you would know it. I find it incredibly entertaining that you talk about "some people can get really sensitive" considering that you assumed that out of eighty some comments I randomly chose to indirectly direct you. LOL. Sensitive much darling? I don't care about your opinion as I don't know you and I couldn't care less about what difference of opinions we may or may not have as I have no interest in getting to know you or your opinions. I come here to share mine and read through the posts to see which ones actually do interest me; when I find a poster that does, I adress them. With me, you never have to guess if I'm directing something at you. Take your own personal sensitivity issues and address them with someone who actually cares. What am I supposed to get over? I don't particularly know as you sound pretty random right now, so I'll follow your advice. I'll "get over" your obvious false sense of grandiosity that would lead you to believe someone is directing something to you, a complete anon out of quite a large pool of other anons without even mentioning you. LOL this is me laughing at you while getting "over it".
This is just an opinion that people can disagree or agree but maybe the reason Drita wad mad about "the good mom" comment Ramona maid was because she knee that Ramona really didn't mean that she was a good mother, and felt it wasn't coming from a genuine place, so her bringing up her kids to look good, or bringing up her kids triggered her...because like one of the bloggers mentioned that's a touchy subject...anyone who is a mother can understand that if you bring someone kids into a conversation & does it from a negative place, you are going to be ofended no matter what...no one likes to bring up their kids that's a very sensitive subject for any mother regardless of whether that mother is seen as "good" or "bad"'
One thing I will say that maybe obvious to some is that everyone is talking the "truth coming" and how Carla and Drita are finally being revealed as liars...Everyone is only pointing out how Drita is the violent one...but I think that the bigger issue that people need to understand is that it is a reality show were people are manipulated through editing yo show a viewpoint and no another. We need to understand that non of the women's behavior is appropriate and they are not being portrayed as "good role models" in that show. Yes we have some of them that are physically violent...but that does not excuse the other one yes including Ramona, Karen,Renee, and Drita from verbally attacking and abusing each other. WHY DO WE THINK THE US HAS SUCH AN EPIDEMIC WITH BULLYING...BECAUSE WE GROW UP IN A SOCIETY WERE VERBAL AGGRESION IS SEEN AS A HEALTY FORM OF COMPETIVENESS...especially these women who grew up in violent upbringings...they don't get past the bullying, and they teach their kids to be bully's, even when they do not want them to imitate their behavior! but hey we are all part of it because am watching the show arent I? AND ARENT YOU ALL?
Unless someone is choosing their vices over their children, I don't see someone referencing an individual as a mother an insult. Stating that you had consideration for someone due to the fact you like their kids and didn't want the parent to catch a case is not an insult in my opinion.
I grew up with sticks & stones....
Unless you yell fire when there is no fire or make terrorist threats I don't think using words positively or negatively is against the law. However striking someone over words is very much against the law.
Anon, I can agree that Drita probably felt Ramona doesn't sincerely care about her as a mom or otherwise. However, the mom thing was only a tangent to Ramona's point. Basically Ramona's saying I may not like you but you're a mother, I don't want you going over the balcony. She could have said you're a human being, I don't want you going over the balcony, the point was she didn't want Drita going over the balcony. The way Drita reacted it was like Ramona insulted her kids, which she didn't. So like again, we go back to Drita not being able to follow simple conversations or understand how normal interaction works. If Drita thinks Ramona isn't being real in an offhand statement, fine, but don't make it into something it isn't or take it to a level where it doesn't need to go. The guy in the bodega who says "Have a nice day" doesn't really care about Drita's day, that shouldn't get him choked.
LOL!! Kel thank you for clearing that up! Everything you said after "I was not directing that message at you" I will discard. No need to get upset. I'm not a cyber-thug. I'm just here for entertainment purposes. LMBO
Agreed! Fighting is wrong at any age.however, lying about being a peace maker when you're adding fuel to an already live flame is not very honorable either.
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