Mob Wives: Renee Graziano Interview on Hector "Junior" Pagan's Turning

Renee Graziano w/ Hector "Junior" Pagan, summer 2011.

Our interview was originally posted the first week of December 2011 during filming of season 2 of VH1's hot reality series Mob Wives.  We took it down out of respect for production as there were concerns it revealed too much.  The interview was conducted 12/4/ 2011.  


Hector "Junior" Pagan becoming an informant was revealed on tonight's episode of Mob Wives.  I thought about re-interviewing Renee Graziano before republishing this interview.  However, I believe it's an opportunity for The Mob Wives Blogspot reader to see a bit of what a mob wife goes through in the  chaos of a storm.  At the time of the interview we'd known for a little over a week that Hector "Junior" Pagan allegedly flipped on his ex father-in-law Anthony "TG" Graziano.  We've kept mum on the subject because frankly we have consideration for most we blog about.  We know real people & real situations are behind the cast members we watch every week.  So The Mob Wives Blogspot decided to sit back & blog this story on our terms.

I've spoken with Hector "Junior" Pagan a few times.  Frankly he's a likable guy on the phone.  I even fussed him out on how he treated Renee Graziano.  He said, "I'm not alone in making mistakes.  I'm just not going to tell..."  Those words are ringing in my head as I write.  I am not going to bash Mr. Pagan for flipping.  All I can think is his back must've been truly up against a wall to flip on a man who treated him like a son.  A man who knowingly welcomed an outsider into not only his family but a lifestyle.  I could think of no better person to talk to on the situation besides Renee Graziano of Mob Wives.  The ex-wife who seemed to be rekindling a relationship with Hector, the daughter of Anthony Graziano, and most importantly the mother of A.J. Pagan.

Renee, I am sorry for bothering you.  However, I have to address the recent events concerning the arrests of Junior (Hector Pagan) and your father (Anthony Graziano).  How are you coping?
I'm devastated.  A.J., my father and Junior were the three most important men in my life.  It's unexplainable.  I'm doing my best to keep it together.  I will always stand by my father and son.

Season 1 of Mob Wives we the viewers witness you give Karen (Gravano) a hard time for returning to Staten Island.  You wanted nothing to do with her because of her father 'ratting'.  We did see you two come together by the end of the season with you even trying to protect her from Drita's wrath.  With the recent developements has your opinon changed?
I now have compassion for the (Gravano) family.  My opinion of tattletaling hasn't change.  I don't have just one egg on my face.  She laughs.  I have a whole dozen.  One has to be careful of what you say and who you judge.  One day you may be living it.

What's your thoughts on Karen's situation with Sammy "The Bull" Gravano cooperating with authorities now?
I know exactly what she went through now.  I am walking in the shoes Karen walked in 20 years ago.  It's so painful and confusing.  Frustrated, shocked, mislead, my world has been turned upside down.  I am flat out f*cking numb.  It's overwhelming.  I feel lost.

On that note, what's Karen's reaction?
Karen's got wings.  I don't know if they're swan, super hero, jet or angel.  When she got word, she flew to my house.  Karen has been so supportive.  She's there for A.J. which is a miracle and blessing.  I thank God that my son has someone whose gone through this situation.  She's given me advice and let me know, 'The storm hasn't even come yet.'

Now that the allegations of Junior's flipping are out.  How are the other Mob Wives and the real world treating you?
The majority of the Mob Wives' cast and crew have been absolutely wonderful, nothing has changed.  Now outside of reality television people who care about me last week, don't care about me today.  People who were blowing up my phone last week aren't calling me today.  They aren't answering my calls either.  She laughs again.

The Graziano sisters during happy times; Renee, Jennifer & Lana.

Basically, people are showing their true colors.
Yes, they are and it's okay.  And I understand the place they're in.  I was in a place of ignorance and lack of compassion not too long ago.  Mob Mistress I don't want to focus on them or the place I was in once upon a time.  I have to share with you my mother and sisters have been ridiculously supportive.  Most don't know but I've battled depression for years.  And my family has just been amazing.  I am so very thankful for them and my true friends.

Do you have any final words before I let you go?
Yes!  The animated Renee I am use to, is back for a moment.  I appreciate all the kind words and prayers I've been receiving from the Mob Wives' viewers and complete strangers.  Their words and kindness have been a comfort to me during this dark time in my life.  It's means a lot to me.  Joshy, Donna Wetterquist- Puga, Blakdeeva and Jeanette (a former blogger here) and so many others, too many to name shared words that have truly touched me.  It means so very much to me.  I am thankful for all the kind words and encouragement.  Jeanette shared the saying, "If God leads you to it, He will lead you thru it."  Reading those words were so comforting and inspirational.

Well let's end on that positive note.  I really appreciate you giving the Mob Wives' viewers an opportunity to hear from you on this unfortunate turn of events.
Wait a minute, there's something else I need to do.  My deepest apologies go to the Gravano family for my ignorant and cold hearted behavior in regards to their situation.  I've apologized privately and wanted to publicly.  I am very sorry for my behavior.  The family didn't have anything to do with the decision of one.  I understand now.

Well Renee you know I am rooting for you and your son.  I don't know what you are going through.  I can only try to imagine.  My prayers go out to you.
Thank you!  I truly appreciate it.  I don't plan on talking about this again.  It's just too painful.

I understand.


Our interview ended.  My prayers go out to Renee Graziano, A.J. Pagan and their families.  One of the reasons Mob Wives is such a hit is the reality of the up & downs the women live out on the show.  


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