Mob Wives: Recap "You Don't Wanna Go To War With Me" Ep 204

"This whole entire summer I've hated your guts!"

Ramona goes to Karen’s apartment after being released from jail. Getting arrested put a big scare into her. She tells Karen she is in “shock mode.” Ramona says that she and her boyfriend were picking up a friend at the airport and they got pulled over to the side of the road and handcuffed. She was scared and it brought her back to her childhood when she was ten years old with her grandfather. She says she never dated anyone who went to jail . Now she has to deal with it or walk away. Karen tells her she will be able to deal with it.

In the next scene we are at the Drunken Monkey with Carla, Drita and Big Ang. Drita says that Big Ang is like the “Godmother.” About ten or more years ago, Big Ang owned a bar named the Noctural and when Drita was about 17 or 18 she would have many fights at that bar all the time. Drita laughs as she reminisces over how Big Ang never called the cops or got her into trouble. People would end up in the hospital, but no one ratted. Big Ang says her son AJ is always in trouble. Just then she gets a text saying her son AJ has been in a serious car accident. Big Ang asks if he was high and then says it’s always unnecessary bullshit. She is disgusted.

Drita sounds very proud of her glory days, 

when she would put people in the hospital!

Renee and Karen meet for dinner to talk about Renee’s meeting with Carla. Karen says it was a big thing that Carla never visited her at the hospital, but she is glad they resolved it. Karen has issues with the lies that Drita and Carla were telling everyone about Drita putting Karen in the hospital. Renee says Carla is naïve. Karen thinks Carla will always take Drita’s side. The Karen adds, if Carla keeps talking about her like she is a joke, she will black out two of her “f*ckin’ eyes!”

At Renee’s house, Junior is moving back in with Renee and AJ. Renee says they have been getting along fantastically. Junior has a lot of stuff to bring in. Renee says she must be the biggest sucker or she must be in love with him. It didn’t work out last year when he moved in, but they are trying again. Renee says she will try to be less bossy, but still be the boss. She says Junior will be going to jail soon and she wants to spend as much family time together as possible.

Back at Karen’s apartment, Ramona is talking about a DEA drug charge that her boyfriend is facing. She’s upset because it was all over the internet and in the news. Ramona hasn’t had a chance to tell her children what happened yet. She is worried because her boyfriend is close with her children. Ramona explains that she and Karen grew up differently. Karen always knew what was going on, her father didn’t shield her from everything. But Ramona’s family was the opposite, and she was always kept in the dark. She says her ex-husband isn’t around for the kids, he lives in another country.

Ramona has some serious thinking to do.

Drita and Carla meet to talk to Derek Tobacco about the night at Renee’s party. Derek was in the middle of the fight and Drita wants to know if Karen hit her while she was being held. She thinks Derek might know the answer. When he arrives they ask him, but he jokingly takes the fifth; then he says he doesn’t know because punches were being thrown all over the place. Helpful Carla, who wasn’t even there that night, thinks that Karen would hit Drita while she was being held! Both Drita and Carla are anti-Ramona and feel she butted into the argument and made things worse. Drita says she believes she was hit when Derek was holding her because she remembers her eye getting punch after he said “Drita, this is Derek,” and she stopped punching. Drita calls Karen and Ramona punk and she will fight them again.

At Renee’s house, Renee and Junior are having a conversation about AJ and Renee is really upset. She says that AJ kicked her bedroom door and cracked it. She wants Junior to be a full time parent and handle the situation. She also says that AJ was mad because she told him to come home on time. He cursed at her, broke a lamp and kick his bedroom door. Renee feels it has something to do with his girlfriend and that he is dating someone who makes him angry. She tells Junior that AJ has fallen head over heels for this girl, but she wants him to stay on course and Junior should handle it.

Big Ang’s son, another AJ, visits her for lunch. He has totaled out his car, his face hit the windshield, but he is ok. She asks about his love life and he says he has a couple of girls. Then he asks about her love life. She met a guy who is out of jail, but he killed someone. Her son says he could still be a good guy. Big Ang tells AJ he is getting her a puppy. Big  Ang is concerned about her son because he has no job and gets into trouble all the time. She wants him to straighten out so he doesn’t end up in jail. No street life!

Carla attends a fashion show with her friend and they end up talking about Renee. Carla says she made up with Renee, but Renee has a friend named Ramona and she doesn’t like her. Carla says Ramona is a trouble maker who talks behind people’s backs. And what exactly is Carla doing right now? Excuse me, but can she be more of a hypocrite?  Carla is the one who does nothing BUT talk behind people’s backs AND compares stories!

"Pick up the f*cking crumbs!!!"

Renee invites Karen and Ramona and their kids over for dinner at her house. Renee complains that no one is on time! When they get there she tells them how bad AJ is  acting, kicking in doors. Then Renee sees some crumbs and has a meltdown. She complains about Junior leaving crumbs and leaving the television on. Renee starts crying and screaming over the crumbs. The kids look shocked. Karen thinks maybe she had a little too much wine. All the while Renee is going on about crumbs, Ramona is trying to lighten the situation and calm her down. She tells Renee that crumbs are not that serious. Karen says, when you go to Renee’s for dinner you never know what is going to happen. I know one thing that won’t be happening, I’m not leaving any crumbs! They ask Renee what happened when she met with Carla. Renee says she did the right thing, they have a 27 year friendship. Karen knows this means Renee will want everyone to get along with Carla and she has some issues with Carla, so now she feels she has to talk with her.

Ramona's daughter in a state of "crumb shock!"

Drita and Carla get together and talk about Renee and how she wants everyone to be friends. Carla doesn’t want to be friends with Ramona and neither does Drita. They have been hearing that Ramona is talking about them, behind their backs, all over Staten Island. Drita is pissed because Karen didn’t tell Ramona to back away when they were having their discussion on the balcony. Carla says she has her own friends and doesn’t need new ones.

At Karen’s apartment, Karen calls Carla to arrange a meeting. The last time they saw each other was on the rooftop. Karen says she has issues with Carla and wants to talk to her about them. They agree to meet. Another sit down for Carla. 

Karen and Carla’s sit down at the restaurant starts cordially, but not for long. Karen wants to talk and says, “This whole entire summer I’ve hated your guts!” Carla is stunned for a second. Karen says Drita is a f*ckin’ liar and she feels that Carla was part of that rooftop rumble because she was laughing when Drita went for her. Karen says she was upset that Carla didn’t visit Renee at the hospital. Then she says she hears that Carla is going around saying Ramona is her archenemy. Karen doesn’t like it.  Karen tells her Drita was going around Staten Island telling everyone she put her in the hospital and was told Carla was right by her side. But Carla keeps defending Drita’s lies, saying that’s what they heard. Karen feels she is being called the liar. Carla says she tried holding Drita back on the rooftop, but she was too wild so she let her go. Karen says Drita hit her while she was being held down on the floor, she’s a sucker-puncher.

Karen is heated and Carla asks why is she talking about Drita? She doesn’t like the way Karen is talking about Drita. Karen says, “You’re gonna go to war with me and you don’t wanna go to war with me.” Carla gets up to walk out. Karen keeps calling her back. 

Carla comes back and says she didn’t come to meet Karen to talk about Drita. Carla wants to speak calmly. Karen realizes she doesn’t want to hurt Carla, she likes Carla.  Her issue is with Drita. Carla says they shouldn’t discuss Ramona or Drita and leave them out of their friendship. They agree. Karen says she “respects Carla’s loyalty, even if she is loyal to a ho.”

 My two cents: Not the most exciting episode, but everyone sure had a lot of talking to do. As for Drita, she is in the Drunken Monkey reminiscing about all her old fights with Big Ang and putting people in the hospital. She doesn’t not show us any sign that she is “reformed.” It’s like fighting is her life. It’s time to put away the wrenches, the boxing gloves and the fists and set a good example for her children. Again I am suggest some anger management sessions, for her own good, before she gets hurt.

Renee let’s Junior move back in too damn soon. What has he proven? Just because he is supposed to be going back to jail is no reason to rush things. Too much has happened in the past to build trust again so fast. After all the surgery and the physical, emotional and mental stress Renee has been through, the last thing she needs is Junior to do something stupid…and I don’t mean leaving crumbs on the table. I know Renee carried on and on about Junior’s crumbs, but it’s not about the crumbs, it has to be about bigger issues that maybe didn’t come out on the show. I thought I heard her say he was texting some woman? Maybe that’s behind the crumbs? Maybe it was her rule about not cheating that she was more upset about, not the rule about leaving crumbs?

Ramona’s boyfriend being arrested on drug charges sounds like pretty serious stuff. Not everyone gets pulled over to the side of the road like that, handcuffed and arrested unless this is a big deal. I would have liked to know more about it. Now I wonder if she will stay with him through this or walk away?  She has to consider her four children, whether or not he is guilty of anything, and if he is going to have to spend time in jail. Karen seems to think she can deal with it, I’m not so sure. Ramona has been sheltered from the lifestyle and isn’t used to the “waiting game.” She has her four children to think about, whether or not the boyfriend is guilty of anything and if he is going to serve serious time in jail. Will she stick around? I don’t know, love makes people do crazy things.

Hello? What’s going on with my man, AJ? This behavior that Renee describes is so out of character. Kicking in doors, breaking lamps and cursing at his mother? I need to see that on tape because I find it hard to believe he would behave that way towards Renee after all he has seen her go through this year. I know teens get rebellious and want independence, but I can’t imagine he would take it to this extreme just because she told him to come home on time. Renee blames it on the girlfriend, but I think an angry reaction like this has to have more to it. Maybe Junior’s moving in didn’t sit well with AJ? He might be angry that Renee is setting herself up for another fall?

Drita and Carla talk to Derek about whether or not Karen punched Drita while she was being held by Derek. You could watch that footage all day and not know what happened. It was total chaos. But I will say, Miss Carla loves to throw wood on a raging fire every time. She chimes in that she could see Karen punching Drita while she was being held. Frankly, I don’t agree with Carla. I think Karen got the punch in right after Drita threw her punch, the one that set things off. It was her only chance because after that they were ALL being held back from each other. 

Carla doesn’t like Ramona and calls her a trouble maker. I have yet to see why she feels so strongly about Ramona. Ramona never did anything to her and, as far as I know, she only said on the show that Carla was Drita’s puppet, which I am sure she would say right to her face. It’s true. Then Carla complains that Ramona talks behind everyone’s back. I didn’t get that impression. If anyone in the show is a trouble maker and spends all her time gossiping, it’s sweet Carla, who calls everyone to compare stories. How many times has she added her two cents and made situations worse? One of my issues with her is when Carla told Drita not to read chapter one of Karen’s book. Karen gave it as a peace offering and to reassure Drita. What thanks did she get for that? A rooftop rumble, that’s what. Drita was so angry about the book, without reading it, she went looking for blood! 

Now, my biggest issue and disappointment with the episode is when Karen meets Carla.  Everyone knows I am a Karen fan, period. But I need someone to explain what I saw and heard to me, PLEASE! Early in the episode, Karen is talking to Renee about Carla and says if she doesn’t stop treating her like a joke she will blacken both her eyes! Great, I can co-sign on that. Then Karen calls Carla to arrange a meeting so she can discuss her issues with her. She begins the conversation with “I hate your guts!” Now I am expecting big, big things to happen, seriously.  They talk some more about Drita, the lies and whatever else, who cares, and suddenly Karen is saying “I like you,” to Carla!?! And they decide to be friends? What the hell? I know I didn’t fall asleep and miss anything so why the turn around? If it’s in the editing I need to see what the hell they cut out asap!  If you ask me, Carla the REAL reason that Karen and Drita couldn’t work out their differences. Instead to trying to calm Drita, Carla always steamed her up about Karen, throughout season one. They all watched season one, so how is it I am the only one to see that Carla is no one’s friend? She’s not Renee’s friend, she’s not Ramona’s friend, she sure as hell ain’t Karen’s friend, and I would bet she would throw Drita under a bus in a minute to save herself. Nope I am not buying this “make-up” session for a second!

Karen adds that she respects Carla’s loyalty to Drita.  Well we will see just how long that loyalty lasts. 

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