Wednesday, May 18, 2011

Mob Wives: David Seabrook: Karen’s Ex-Boyfriend



On Episode 5 of VH1's Mob Wives, David Seabrook made a call to Karen Gravano in which they discussed a few things, mainly their daughter.  David has been described as Karen’s husband, fiance and live in boyfriend. I am not going to try to determine his “status” in her life. She referred to him as her ex-boyfriend, so we will stick with that. I am just going to report on a few details I picked up on the other man who played a significant role in Karen’s life.

In 1995, Debra Gravano moved to Arizona to be with Sammy. She had company. Karen, her boyfriend David Seabrook, and their baby also joined Sammy in Arizona. David Seabrook had reportedly been convicted, at the age of 14, of attempted murder, but that’s nothing compared to Sammy’s history.

It turns out that David was also involved in the Devil Dog Ecstasy ring in Arizona. The police allegedly obtained 17,000 hours of wiretapped conversations over a two month period. One particular situation involved one of the “money drops” for the drugs which was $10,000 short. The wiretap caught that conversation and subsequent discussions, between David and Karen, speculating about what happened to the missing money. Since Sammy, himself, had counted the money for the drop, Seabrook felt that he took it. Karen told him to go speak to her father about it. Police were able to capture the meeting between David and Sammy, at Sammy’s construction office, on film because the window was wide open. Sammy was angry and his arms were waving violently. This allowed police to tap his office phone, since they now had probable cause that drug business was being conducted there. In another call, Seabrook was allegedly reported to tell a New York associate that he was getting rich selling drugs for Gravano.

“From the wiretap summary: ‘Dave stated that he has never made this much money in his life. ... Dave goes on to say that they are giving him (Gravano) 50 cents (per pill) on everything given to them. ... Dave mentions that this is the first time he's been on this level.’”

Dave also was recorded as saying how Sammy was a great advisor and told them how to reinvest their money into the drug operation in order to make even more money.

In the end, when police took down 46 people who were involved with the drug ring, David Seabrook was one of those arrested. While most participants got probation or short prison sentences, David did not. He was given the same sentence as Sammy's son, Gerard, 9 ¼ years.


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40 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is a great website! This show is my guilty pleasure and its great to have some additional info on the show and the stars of the show. Just a thought -- for those of us in the NYC area, it might be good to post the names of the restaurants/salons/etc visited by the girls during the show. I know I'd like to go to a few of those restaurants! Thanks for a job well done!

Chiara Soprano said...

Anon, so glad you are enjoying the site! I will definitely make an effort to include the names of the places the women visit. I have tried to do that in some of the blogs, but some slip through the cracks. Welcome and thanks for your comments.

jnettemarie said...

That's a great idea, I'm from Philly but I'd like to know just for the hell of it.

I Looked some stuff up and found these 3 articles. I only skimmed thru but what I did read was quite interesting. Karen is not quite the victim being the daughter of Sammy.

Mob Mistress said...

Hello Everyone!

We've mention a couple of places and shared their websites or locations. Z-One Lounge and more recently the Sanctuary Boutique.

Thanks for reading! Keep watching the show!

Chiara Soprano said...

Drita's Birthday was held at The Chelsea Room at 222 W 23rd Street between 7th and 8th.

Love said...

Well, there David Is! Thanks guys! And isn't it nice that David took the HEAT for Karen, then she dumps him!
I am not convinced that they are broke up. I think it's just good for the show. I look for them to be back together when it's over, unless Karen finds a better loaf of bread with her celebrity.

Chiara Soprano said...

LOL Love, you may be right. I found myself wondering if Carla really has a boyfriend or that was another ruse/setup for more drama (like the drunk in the bar that went up to Karen). Now, they make me question everything.

jnettemarie said...

Love I'm not convinced they are down with eachother either. All of the Gravano's seem shady, I guess the apples didn't fall to far. And I'm still questioning why Karen left her daughter in AZ with David. If she was in any kind of danger she wouldn't of come. And David maybe be her biological father but that doesn't mean he is stable enough to leave a child with. Didn't he just get out of prison. How does she know he's not going to run the streets again.

I found these articals and what to share about the Gravano's and how they live thier lives...

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2003-10-29/news/18239766_1_jam-master-jay-run-dmc-jason-mizell

http://www.childrensafetyzone.com/safety/current_stories/grandson_mobster_00.html

Chiara Soprano said...

Thanks for the articles Jnette. I tend to think Karina may be with her mother, if she is out there. I also think, if I was in Karen shoes, I would not bring my daughter if I thought there was a remote chance there may be problems. Also I would not want to take her out of school and uproot her for a 10 episode series, unless I knew there was more to come. I know Karen goes back regualrly to Az to visit her.

jnettemarie said...

That poor Karina doesn’t have a fighting chance in hell. Every adult in her life is a crook, murderer, drug dealer, or wanna be celebrity (yea, Karen Baby that’s you). Karen is in NY promoting her book, gaining celebrity status, going to parties, events, and having a good time. She left that kid at home for that reason only. I’m tell in ya, I know from where I speak.
And I’m starting to think it was Renee and Karen who put this show together with Jen Graziano. Honestly, when the shit all went down with Sammy in the 90s Karen was 19 and stayed in NY for some time before going to AZ. Karen has stated she stayed because she didn’t approve of her father cooperation. So I’m thinking Renee never stopped talking to Karen. It’s just not that cut and dry.
Then again, I could be completely wrong and just bitchy today because of the hot flashes and hormones.

Chiara Soprano said...

Jnette, I symapthize with the hot flashes and hormones. I can't argue with your logic, it's very plausible that it went down the way you say. There is a lot we are never going to know or they wouldn't want us to know because it would take the wind out of their sails. All reality shows do plenty of manipulation and I wonder how much "reality" we are seeing.

Anonymous said...

Italians are very racist. How did Karen's father and family and friends accept her black boyfriend?

Mob Mistress said...

To the anon directly above this comment. Your statement is very prejudice in nature. I have met racist and prejudice people from many different ethnicities. Italians do not have the corner market on racism. As a matter of fact Mr. Seabrook worked with Mr. Gravano. I am sure Karina is very much loved by the Gravano family. I'd also like to add members of the Graziano family have equally dated those not 100% Italian. People are people. I know a lot of Itallian men & women who are open to date and marry outside of their culture/community. Thanks for reading!

Anonymous said...

Well in all honesty, I think Drita is nasty. Why Lee would leave a wholesome woman for a slut is beond what I can Fathem. She never has her kids .Where are they?? She should have never crossed that boundry between friends! Maybe in Albania that shit is cool, but not her!!

Mob Mistress said...

Who did Lee leave for Drita for? Our understanding is Lee & Karen were over when Drita started dating Lee. The issue is simply she should've reached out to Karen to tell her. Karen is one of my favorites. However, she doesn't meet my definition of wholesome if that is who you are referring to. Thanks for reading and sharing your opinion.

Blondie said...

Thanks for this information. I am glad to see that you are are to handle the comments on this post in such a tactful manner :)

Mob Mistress said...

I handle comments in the manner I choose. It's not always tactful. But it's always my opinion based on the information I know. You're welcome.

Mob Mistress said...

Danny Boy~

Did you really think your comment was going to go through. You are a bitch ass eSlime. Take that shit somewhere else. Learn the history of Sicily while you are at it. Oh and I know you wouldn't say that shit to Mr. Seabrook's face. You'd get that ass tapped. Thanks for reading but how about you not come back.

Acappellla said...

Awwwe how funny, I knew Karen's lil girl was mixed. lol. Looks like a mini Karen totally cute!! lol.

Mob Mistress said...

THIS MESSAGE IS FOR THE SLOW & IGNORANT FOLKS ONLY. YOUR RACIAL INTOLERANCE & IGNORANCE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED OR POSTED. GET A CLUE & HAVE A GREAT DAY.

~H.B.I.C.

Samuel said...

To the blogger who stated that Italians are racist...ITALIANS ARE NOT RACIST...it may appear that way because most of them are in denial because both north italians were ruled by black africans (Hanibal) and southern italians were ruled by black africans (Moors)> Italians and blacks have historically lived side by side in most cities and inter-married for centuries....it is non-italian white americans that are racist...it's embedded in their culture

Mob Mistress said...

Samuel~

I abhor folks coming on here writing that Italians are racist & prejudice. I don't like that stereotype. I know plenty of Itatians who've married & dated outside their ethnicity and/or Caucasian race.

I agree with you on a lot of your comment. Though I do know that in certain Italian communities in the states people have been assaulted and murdered for dating black men. It is what it is. But I do not think Italians are racist as a whole. Italians as individuals are racists or prejudice just as Irish, Asian, African & Latin individuals can be too.

We really appreciate you taking the time to read our site & commenting!

Samuel said...

...and THANK YOU Mob Mistress for putting up a site where this ridiculous assertion can be addressed. I, for one, am very passionate about this because I went to an all-white school in the 60's and the only ones who TRULY embraced us (blacks) were Italians who appreciated our culture and contribution to white society. In fact I got expelled for taking 3 of my friends, whose fathers were all "mobbed up" to Harlem and they had a blast...one of the best times in my life. The situation you speak of about people getting beat up is not so much racial as it is for class and economic conditions. Unfortunately, a lot of them (Italians)bought into the fallacy that blacks or hispanics moving into their communities will bring the property value down.I used to fight with them on a daily basis....lost some....won most.I've learned that once you earn their respect they embrace you like family...take Mike Tyson for example.

Samuel said...

....furthermore (and this is the last time I'm gonna address this "racist" bullsh**)...majority of these "gamattas" spoken of by so-called italian mobsters were BLACK WOMEN...at least that's how it was here in NY and Philly

Samuel said...

...btw...i'm interested...WHAT DID DANNY BOY HAVE TO SAY??

Mob Mistress said...

What Danny Boy had to say is nothing he'd have the balls to say to Mr. Seabrook or Mr. Gravano's faces.

Also you hanging out with some Italians and having a great time is totally different than you dating their sisters or daughters. LOL! I've seen both side of the coin. And it's definitely isn't socio-economic when an Italian woman is engaged to an very wealthy Afro-American and her community labels her a lot of unpleasant derrogatory names.

We have a couple of interviews where the women address this very issue.

Goumadas, comares, left-handed wives and mistresses come from all ethnicities and races. In certain ethnic mobs a Latina or Black mistress is a trophy. In others it's more of an undercover thing.

We really appreciate your voice on this comment. I hope you have a great weekend.

Samuel said...

I'd like to see that interview....thanks for the response

Big billionaire said...

Mob Mistress, you're regulating everybody on here, but that's true the stuff you're saying

Nikki said...

I would love to have dinner with Mob Mistress just to pick your brain!
I'm German and Italian, and let's not be naive to think that there is some hidden life meaning in this show. These women did this for one reason and one reason only. They needed money, whether b/c they just wanted more of it, or to earn their own, and most likely b/c the "Wells" may be drying up.
Things have changed since the 30's 40's etc. Things are apparently more tolerated, The men in the families are/were allowed much more latitude as far as who they had as mistresses, it is unusual though to see an Italian woman who is raised in the OC syndicate, to be openly involved w/ a person of color, but more specifically a black man. In the days of Old NYC and Chicago, that was a no-no. Then again though, segregation was still in play during the 20's-30's.

Samuel said...

LOL @Nikki...yea Mob Mistress is MAD COOL....but I'd LOVE to have dinner with the "BITCHIN KITCHEN" hostess...Hey Mob...think you can set that up???...lol

Mob Mistress said...

Nikki,

Segregation didn't end in the 20's-30's. It became illegal during the 60s-70s. If one is to be honest segregation still is in play today 2012.

Samuel,

I wish you could help you out with your BITCHIN KITCHEN requests. However, I have ZERO pull anywhere.

Anonymous said...

I love mob wives Karen and Renee are my fav and don't forget about big ang love her

Anonymous said...

Wholesome??? Look up the definition to that word before u use it again. Karen and wholesome shouldn't be in the same page, let alone in the same sentence. I guess you r envious and which u could be Drita also. Join the club with Ramona and Karen.

Omertà said...

Anonymous u really said that Italians are racist????
No honey we have these little things we are all raised with an they r called LOYALTY N RESPECT....
when a person has those qualities that ur lacking we don't give a f*** if ur a smurf!!! That's what we r!!!

Samuel said...

Jen's (Renee's sister) son looks kinda dark...is his father black?

Anonymous said...

Who knows the name of the song that plays on Karen n Davids date?

Anonymous said...

I'm confused as to Karina's age, if she is 12 she couldn't have been born in 1995 when Debra, Karen, boyfriend and baby moved to Arizona. I wish a Karen/Drita/Lee timeline was created for us. Its very hard to follow. Thanks love your blog

Anonymous said...

Hello. Has anyone actually researched the subject of how many Italian mobsters have married black women? Sure it has to be more than one in the world. Thank you.

Samuel said...

Can't speak for the mobsters but I do know having traveled to north africa that half of the population there are the mixtures of sicilians and black (Tunisia for example where the 2nd language is italian)watch the movie A Wake in Providence...they scantily speak of this there....I saw a very interesting piece on the tv series MOBSTERS. where one of the segments talked about this one mobster who was married to a black woman and rather than give her up...went to jail for his conviction...aftermath is she and her daughter have been accepted whole-heartily by his family and to this day they are very happy...BTW...I'm looking for MY Italian/ Sicilian princess...ANY TAKERS OUT THERE??....LOL

Samuel said...

Another point I found interesting historically is that it was a sicilian that discovered Cairo Egypt...google AlSaqalia