I got an invitation the other day from Evolution Boxing. That is the place where Drita went for her boxing lessons to help reduce her aggression. Seems that someone from Evolution read my blog that questioned the premise that boxing actually doesn't reduce aggressive tendencies, but instead tends to increase them. They seem to think otherwise. In fact they explained that it's not the actual physical act of boxing that reduces aggression, but it's the long term training and state of mind that accomplishes this. However, I politely declined their generous offer to take a lesson with Drita's trainer due to the fact that I am not an aggressive person by nature and therefore, I have no aggression to reduce. But, I do appreciate the fact they read the blog and took time to contact me personally and make this offer.
Just in case you think I am kidding, I have copy and pasted the conversation that was had in Twitter.
Check out their website, if you are so inclined, and even though boxing may not be for me, you might enjoy it.
Link: http://www.evolutionfitnessinternational.com/
Picture Credit: Evolution Boxing
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Wow Chiara I have to admit what came to me when I saw the.title of the story! I was going to reply before I read the blog, when I saw title, that maybe boxing is a way for Drita to let out her Anger! Obviously I was way off, and reading your story its so obvious to me now! Who could ever forget poor Robin Givens, or Desiree Washington? Mike Tyson biting off Evanders Ear was icing on the cake! To me that was ANGER in its Prime! I am stunned over the conversation you had with them, that they think long term training is good for controlling anger and the mind, you are amazing how you politely bring Mike Tyson into it as an example! I also find this an amazing read, your calmness, beautiful, gentle nature always comes thru in your writing! I love how you graciously declined a boxing lesson due to you are not an aggressive person by nature! I learned another life lesson from you today! Your point at end of conversation pointing out that Mike Tyson had Long term training, and seems his Anger was off the charts, Knocked me out! I'm so happy you graciously declined the private lesson, What would we do if something happened to Your GOLDEN GLOVE HANDS! Xoxoxoxo
Now Mike Tyson is not the right example. He has mental issues. His behavior was due to being aggressive but not being quite right in the head. Yes he boxed and bit Holyfield ear. I would have done the same had he hit me with elbows and head butted me. I boxed way backand I was too tired to fight after training. I am not aggressive so for me it did not change me. I think more studies need to be done
Underboss you know much more about this than I do, I'm sure. I respect your opinion a great deal. Tyson probably does have mental issues. Drita's anger and aggression also comes from someplace other than what we see on the show, I wish I knew where. Can you think of other boxers who, after extensive training, have had anger management issues? That could be a study in itself.
I agree with the Underboss--using Mike Tyson as an example is not necessarily fair, as there are exceptions to every rule. I'm not so concerned about how boxing affects aggressive behavior, I'm more concenred about how boxing messes up one's face and damages one's brain.
One of the best examples, right now who seems to be a bit crazy is James Kirkland. He lives in Austin and can channel his aggression in the ring but he lost his focus a few times and went to jail. Dritas anger stems from having a miserable life. She is jealous of the others on the show. She covets the lifestyle. I say that because I had many rich friends growing up. I wanted to live like them and not wear the same jeans for 4 years. It seems that her aggression stems from that and also being raised strict. Then she she marries a criminal and life is good but he goes away and then she raises two children by herself. It gets old and she is pissed off. I could correlate her life and mine but that would be a complete post and I have to go to work.
Well, maybe we will get more insight into Drita. Her marrying Lee could have been a rebellious act against her strict upbringing and something she can't admit to herself. I'm glad you mentioned another boxer. I do think more studies should be done about this theory of boxing and aggression.
I think I have to agree with the underboss on this one also . I kinda think Drita has a lot of unresolved issues about her growing up poor. The othe girl were rich didn't have to fight for anything so she felt like it was one thing she had over them maybe just a guess ..
Evolution Boxing was extremely gracious in offering you to come out a learn a bit.
They get a big two thumbs up from me!!
I'll chime in, I do NOT know if boxing makes one less or more aggressive. It crossed my mind that individuals who may have an aggressive nature maybe are more inclined to gravitate to taking up boxing.
Sort of like are some pedophiles decide to become priests, teachers or date women w/ children. It gives them access.
Unlike pedophilia, boxing is a legal avenue & doesn't leave victims. I've an aggressive nature but boxing is a bit too discipline for me. Windmill fists are my method of operation. I love boxing by the way. I think is my favorite sport.
Boxing is a sport, then so is kick boxing even more aggressive! How do you iht a person who does not have the training you do as a boxer, windmill fist?
I respect you Underboss, but Mike Tyson is only one in a line of professional boxers who use their 5' 90 lb wives as punching bags. Even some "gentlemanly" boxers have DV rap sheets. Boxing may not make them more violent or crazier than when they started, but Evolution's argument is that training makes them less violent. They're going to have a hard time proving that one.
No, I agree with anonymous. I was typing up my comment as I was getting ready for work. There are plenty with db rap sheets and plenty of regular joes with dv rap sheets. Boxing is not a material art where it is about self defense. You don't learn to block first. You learn to punch. Boxing did not make me more aggressive but I am sure that others it will. Did I think I could whoop somebody ass after I learned. Yes. I punched the shit out of a guy who knocked down a girl I was with. I cut his eye brow and his cheek. I did that after I learned the proper technique. Drita needs proper technique to throw a panic punch. Keep her eyes on the target and maybe she will hit something. I agree that it can make you more aggressive but it is the old story. Let's blame music for people killing themselves. Let's blame violent video games for kids violent behavior. People use all sorts of excuses. Sorry that is all over the map. I need to think about my comments more before writing.
Mike Tyson has documented mental illness ever since he was in his teens and there was even a press conference where he was said something about being on Zoloft "so I don't kill you all."
Drita isn't a jealous person and her parents worked hard to provide for her and the family. She has said that she moved out of the projects when she was a teenager and into a house.
Drita also had her beauty, her intelligence, and yes, her physical and mental strength which always gave her advantages growing up and they still benefit her to this day.
AGAIN THANKS FOR THE SHOUT OUT! !
My father was an amateur boxer when he was young and had an impressive record of 38 fights, 33 knock outs and 2 draws. No losses.
That being said, the boxing culture was part of my upbringing. My father tried to always instill in my brother and I that it is a sport and should not be used as a release of agression, rather as any other sport, such as soccer or baseball. However, he did mention that there were people that abused of their power to prey on the weak and he did not condone that.
The reason I mention this is because my father never onced raised his hand at my brother or me. He is a calm, soft spoken and outgoing man and I can not recall him ever being really mad or fighting anyone in the street. I did see him in the ring sparing several times and I could not believe it was the same man. HE PACKS A PUNCH! - even to this day he is 65 years old and strong as an ox as he has never abondoned his boxing training excercises. If DRITA could use Boxing as my father did, as a way to exercise and discipline it could be EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL for her.
The thing with Drita is that it is clear (at least to me) that she is not using boxing as Evolution Boxing intends it to be. It just seems like she is just sharpening her skills for "the streets". This is frowned upon in the boxing community. You actually look more like a punk if you use your fighting skills against someone who has no training.
Like dad always said - If you are going to fight, fight fair...
I have to be honest, I didn't read what all the other people have posted, I'm just going to tell you what I think...
I grew up with a fucking awesome mother but in an unhealthy environment. I had an abusive marriage and an abusive relationship afterwards. I had a lot of anxiety, depression, anger and aggression when all was said and done. Boxing and kickboxing has helped me get all that aggression out and live a healthy, steady, calm and chill life. I easily get stressed, annoyed, aggravated and pissed off whilst at work, on the road or in relationships. But after spending an hour at the gym fucking up that punch bag, I go home clear headed, calm and relaxed. The rest of the week is bliss. I understand what you THINK about the exercise, but don't knock it till you tried it. Even if you say you're calm and don't have aggression issues, it's definitely a great source of calorie burning and adrenaline!
Anon, I'm very glad boxing works for you and it helps you deal with your issues. I'm sure you take it seriously, go often and are dedicated to it. I don't see the same motivation coming from Drita. You can't go for a couple of lessons and expect results. I seriously think she only tried it so they could film it. I think that if one boxes on a regular basis, not just hit and miss, that the discipline learned along with the physical exercise, may help in dealing with aggression. The study I quoted only tested their theory in a very limited way to say the least. More research should be done in this area to see whether it can be as helpful to others as it is for you.
OMG!! You were absolutely RIGHT!!
Drita appeared to be taking a lot of aggression out on Mary. I feel so bad for her kids.
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